There ought not never have been no time called too early! ... I done seen a hundred niggers play baseball better than Jackie Robinson. Hell, I know
some teams Jackie Robinson couldn't even make! What you talking about
Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson wasn't nobody. I'm talking about if you
could play ball then they ought to have let you play. Don't care what color
you were. Come telling me I come along too early. If you could play ...
then they ought to have let you play. (1.1.74 &78).
Troy is merely trying to get his point across that he didn't come to early, that he is a good player and he knows that there are many other good players that are better than Jackie Robinson who shouldn’t be discriminated against because of the color of their skin.
Troy's connection with baseball is that he was an outstanding baseball player in the Negro League. Another connection that Troy has with baseball is how he uses it in conversation to reveal and justify his actions. I never understand why he would bring up baseball but then it became clear that he doesn't know how to effectively communicate so he uses "baseball" talk to express himself. A great example of this is after he admits to his wife Rose that he has been unfaithful to her, he tries to give her an explanation and says, "Rose, I done tried all my life to live decent...to be a good husband to you...you born with two strikes on you before you come to the plate...You got to guard it closely... always looking for the curve ball on the inside corner" (2.1.104).
Josh Gibson was known as the best batter for the Negro League and like Troy Maxson, Gibson never made it to Major League baseball. Troy knows of him because he and Josh Gibson have the same outcomes of never getting the chance to play in the Major League. Troy feels as though baseball didn't get him anywhere and he says that to his friend Bono, "What it ever get me? Ain't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw out of" (1.1.69). He also feels that it didn't get Josh Gibson anywhere as well because he comments on Gibson's daughter's shoes, "I saw Josh Gibson's daughter yesterday. She walking around with raggedy shoes on her feet" (1.1.76). Josh Gibson's career represent symbols of winning and losing. He is remembered for being discriminated against (losing) and for his own personal achievement as the best batter in the Negro League (winning). Like Josh Gibson, Troy ends up dying as well maybe even from alcoholism. Both men were great at baseball but were never given the chance to make it big at the next level and both had voids in their hearts because they weren't able to live the dream.
Hey Tina, I was having a hard time as well understanding the reference of baseball in the story. However, your mentioning of baseball speech as a means of communication really opened my eyes to the story. “you born with two strikes on you before you come to the plate...You got to guard it closely... always looking for the curve ball on the inside corner" (2.1.104). I agree that this was the only way he could speak to people close to him. You also pointed out the issues of discrimination throughout his time in baseball, which I agree was a huge issue of the times. I was surprised that he was offered a driving job at work instead of being fired or killed. I think that his resentments towards the “white establishment” ultimately are what destroy his relationships with anyone close to him. An air of distrust surrounds him, truly a shame. Great points, I enjoyed reading.
ReplyDeleteHi Tina, I agree with the point you made about Troy only being able to communicate in “baseball talk.” The way in which he uses baseball analogy to confront his wife about his infidelity shows his lack of communication skills. He is so consumed by baseball that he doesn’t know any other way in which to communicate with others. I also enjoyed the point you made about the discrimination in those times. Troy was a great baseball player, but due to color of his skin he was never able to make it to the big leagues. Great post.
ReplyDeleteHey Tina! Nice post. I just want to put in my 2 cents on Troy's baseball talk. While this may be a somewhat limited method of communication with his family, I think an even bigger problem is that he fails to interpret the gravity of what other people say to him, since they have all moved beyond the simplicity and vagueness this type of language has to offer. Bono points out a gaping hole in Troy's understanding of the people that surround him. By telling Troy, "she loves you," he exposed a bit of this confusion in Troy's predictably defensive and combative response. It's almost like he doesn't want to talk about love, and replaces it with more primordial words, such as "duty."
ReplyDeleteHi Tina! I really like your comparison about Troy's life and the baseball. His frustration of not being a Mayor League Baseball player destroys his family relationship. Troy give the idea of destructive person because he wants to destroy all what he could not be such as his son Cory. He mess up his football career. He not only destroy himself but all around him just because all situation or people do not fit in his baseball life. Troy's frustration kills his desire for living his real life. He always sees the negative side of life which aspect makes him a resentful person who only wants others' misfortune even his family. Another thing that I can conclude about your comparison about baseball and Troy's life is about descrimination. Troy did not accept all changes that modernity offer, so he stays living in that time where black people can have same opportunities than white because when he can get the driving opportunity he is not happy, and he get retired. Good Job!
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